BBC NEWS | Magazine | Who are the British creationists?


 

BBC NEWS | Magazine | Who are the British creationists?

Creationism in School Science http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7612152.stm

"Thinking is an anathema to religion" Richard Dawkins.

Children and Parents, Happy and Amused

‘Fundamentalist Fun’ 

‘The School Harvest Festival’

Cultural-Religious with some Paganism/Pantheism and Religious Fundamentalist (great fun) was had by all! ‘Over the top’ Creationism and some really divisive Christianity. Sin = "Who is going to Heaven and who is going to Hell"? Frighteningly and threateningly produced; for all the 5 to 13 year old age group, was at its best, and at our particular school. Taking it all in frightfully seriously and all as some definite reality (See, ‘Fairy Fancy’ Dawkins – unlike, maybe – ‘Father Christmas’) in the leafy Autumn of 2008. 

In the name of a muddled school ethos and in the very questionable gain of some social inclusion.

Schools and the Charity Commissioners: ‘the edict’ for some schools – to give or have: a greater involvement/participation in the local community with the threat of loss of ‘charitable status’ for taxation purposes – pushing some children (the forced benefactors with their parents) into fundamentalism or fundamentalist fringe beliefs or faiths (or not so fundamentalist, but possibly personally unpalatable – ‘multiculturalism’ vs the very acceptable palatability and tolerance of ‘multi racialism’) and all in the name of ‘social inclusion’ and some ‘charitable benefit to the community’.

The RC Priest practising metaphysically, hands out or the hands on – blessing, and a female C of E Vicar looking on! The School Charity Test  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7655368.stm – Forced into giving and socialising, without any discernment or choice! It’s so easy to push children around, but the British adult doesn’t like it in the ‘playground for faith and belief (ideology)’ UK. See, below, Suzi Leather – when are us (Brits) going to get totally fed up and bored, with such bossy and expensive people! 

What wonders we can now dream up in our ‘Nuclear Self’ or our ‘The Citadel of Self’ {the retreat of religion into – due to the lack of any ‘outward signs’}, with the proponents of religion that go totally uncensored in the above production, with the ‘bringing on’ and giving, to less fortunate others: a great and good harvest, all very much in the ‘primitive science’ mode. Creationism is seriously alive and well in the rural English Villages and our Schools! Ref, Religion in Schools – Church Schools and Faith Schools UK. 

I just do wonder, "What problems are lurking for children psychologically and our society, and if there are any that we may be making for our (vulnerable) children". Parents are needed to unscramble and unbrainwash their off-springs brains. Maybe more: to help in teaching, for every-one’s general awareness, of the ‘real state of affairs’ existing in the world? I don’t think that it can be particularly beneficial! It is great not to be 100% certain of anything (like some of those above, and obviously, the Creationists) as ‘fundamentalist fun’ and ‘community’ did make everyone feel really good! Ref, ‘indoctrination’ of the ‘captive audience’ (children) and the – ‘power(s) of the sub-group’. In the childhood of the intellect – ‘The Long Childhood’ Bronowski    http://www.bbcshop.com/History/Ascent-Of-Man-DVD/invt/bbcdvd1608 

"Philosophy is the childhood of the intellect, and a culture that tries to skip it will never grow up."

Thomas Nagel

"Facts don’t cease to exist because they are ignored". Huxley.

"In time, it is true, experience teaches him that magic formulas and ceremonial gestures do not give him what he wants. But until experience has taught him – and he takes a surprisingly long time to learn – man’s behaviour is in many respects far sillier than that of the animal". Huxley.

"Religion should be taught and examined in the same way as science is; after being examined by the children and their class and being commensurate with their development (Sigmund Freud) – it should be allocated the very short amount of time that the class thinks that it deserves and then to proceed on to the subject of Philosophy".

"The truths contained in religious doctrines are after all so distorted and systematically disguised," writes Sigmund Freud, "that the mass of humanity cannot recognize them as truth. The case is similar to what happens when we tell a child that new born babies are brought by the stork. Here, too, we are telling truth in symbolic clothing, for we know what a large bird signifies. But the child does not know it. He hears only the distorted part of what we say, and feels that he has been deceived; and we know how often his distrust of the grown-ups and his refractoriness actually take their start from this impression. We have become convinced that it is better to avoid such symbolic disguisings of the truth in what we tell children and not to withhold from them a knowledge of the true state of affairs commensurate with their intellectual level".  

"When people are fanatically dedicated to political or religious faiths or any other kind of dogmas or goals, it’s always because these dogmas or goals are in doubt". Robert Pirsig.

Taking the ‘heart out of giving’ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzi_Leather#cite_note-publictechnology_20060620-1

‘Quango Queen’ – Dame Suzi Leather http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1568137/Quango-queen-takes-on-the-public-schools.html

‘What Shall We Tell The Children’? http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/humphrey/amnesty.html

"Christianity should stick to what it does best: Simultaneously making the gullible feel happy that there is some point to life while terrifying them that if they put a foot wrong, they’re going to burn in hell for all eternity". http://malbec.livejournal.com/1421964.html

I would say, "By order of a loving God!" Herman Bondi. 

Private Schools Public Benefit Test. Private Schooling saves – UK Government £2 Billion per annum and more!  http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/education/article4894711.ece  "Is the government, too, going to be subjected to a “public benefit” test to see if it helps poor as well as rich people? No – that would be far too risky for them". Marco, Kraków, Poland. Ref, "I see no radiant tomorrows" Vaclav Havel. School PTA or PTFA’s work really hard for their schools, and all are most generous with some very hard earned and taxed cash – State or Private – The Charity Commissioners and Government, seem to be, living on a planet all of their own! ‘Stupid’ The Charity Commissioners http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7668508.stm 

Cruelty abounds with banning things – everyone agrees with sensible rules http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1078655/How-hunt-shot-Labours-fox-Although-hunting-banned-years-ago-sport-MORE-popular-ever.html But, UK Parliament, ref, "When are us (Brits) going to get totally fed up and bored, with such bossy and expensive people". And – http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/leading_article/article4965117.ece

About luckyme0

My First family, second marriage, bringing up my 18-year-old twins, boy, and girl. I am a third generation Humanist, who has some old handwritten information and notes; collected over many years. Someone may find the articles interesting, or helpful. They could bring back a little ‘reality’, after being ‘shocked’ and ‘brainwashed’, by some malicious group, or institution (REBT Therapy). People should know better, than to do this, to our very young, and the ‘obviously’ vulnerable! Go to easily accessible, non-superstitious knowledge that is not charlatanism! https://charleslizzy.com/2011/08/06/independent-schools-inspectorate-isi-marketing-spirituality-buzzword-or-maybe-even-for-you-to-shiver-at-the-something/ The blog has given me an incentive to order my thoughts, learn, and read up again, after a few non-thinking years of (very silly) imagination and passion. Why not, get your own key to a ‘door’, customise it to suit you, and it can be, all of your very own! Don’t believe, or be led by someone else’s; inherited, stupid, and a very likely (past, and not of today’s) ‘totally preposterous reality’s’. Only some interest in the ‘really big questions’, keeps life above the level of a farce, and very little else! KEEP THINKING! Some of the posts may need some correcting. Interests: REBT Counselling, Atheism, Secularism, Humanism, Psychology, Reading, Popular Science, School Ethos, Philosophy, History, Family, Parenting, Psychology, Horse Riding, Sailing, Rescue Boat Driver, Skiing (Teppichswinger), TV Documentaries, Motorbike Cross Country Riding, Volunteer Sports Stewarding, Writing, Primitive Man, Pre-history, Social Anthropology, British Humanist Association, BHA, Meaning of Life, The Big Questions, Where am I, What am I, Why am I, Hippie Love, Knowledge, Education, Globalisation. Favorite quote: “The world belongs to those who, at least to some degree, have figured it out.” Carl Sagan, ‘The Demon Haunted World’, ‘Contact’, and other famous books DVD ‘Cosmos’. The warning of another and horrendous, “Age of Superstition”. “Isn’t there something deeply absurd in the presumption that children ought to inherit beliefs from their parents. It can be deeply damaging, even lethally divisive. A ‘them’, with an ‘against us’, mentality” – Professor Richard Dawkins. “The will to believe is stronger than mere reason in the vast majority of people” – Dr J.Brown, Army Psychologist of the 1960′s. Humans will believe in almost anything, in fact, they seek it! Why? “98% of us, trained to be just good consumers, let’s train our children to be the 2% who have their very own creativity and discernment”; quote by a famous surreal artist. “The lack of reason brings forth monsters”. “Global interconnectedness is lethal against mass religion, nationalism, racism, and other destructive memeplexes. Let us connect everybody they hate it in restrictive regimes”; from the ‘meme learning group’, Richard Brodie’s book, ‘Virus Of The Mind’ (Richard Brodie a designer for ‘Microsoft Word’). Following on, J.Bronowski, and ‘The Ascent Of Man’ TV series, and a book http://www.bbcshop.com/science+nature/the-ascent-of-man/invt/9781849901154/ with the last DVD in this series, ‘The Long Childhood’ being especially revealing. ‘Prehistory’ and the ‘Making of the Human Mind’ by Colin Renfrew, with P.Wilson’s, ‘The Domestication of the Human Species’, and Nigel Spivey’s, TV series and book, ‘How Art Made The World’, offers some further explanations. Latest reading: Jared Diamond http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Diamond
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